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NEWS: Marvel Editor-in-Chief C.B. Cebulski Wrote Comics Under 'Akira Yoshida' Pen Name


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Amiantos



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:40 am Reply with quote
Literally the only thing he should be apologizing about is the fact he was an editor at the time and they weren't supposed to be publishing comics when working as an editor.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:20 am Reply with quote
Amiantos wrote:
Literally the only thing he should be apologizing about is the fact he was an editor at the time and they weren't supposed to be publishing comics when working as an editor.


Agreed but now under Shonen Jump Weekly Marvel everything is offensive and worth losing your job over unless you're a woman or trans.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:46 am Reply with quote
I hope he gets fired.
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C.B. Cebulski is a name I associate with failure. It will be interesting to see if he can bring that reverse Midas touch to Marvel.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:57 am Reply with quote
OtakunX wrote:
Amiantos wrote:
Literally the only thing he should be apologizing about is the fact he was an editor at the time and they weren't supposed to be publishing comics when working as an editor.


Agreed but now under Shonen Jump Weekly Marvel everything is offensive and worth losing your job over unless you're a woman or trans.

Let's not go there.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:20 pm Reply with quote
I hear hear he’s planning to write a book about the experience entitled, ‘Yellow Like Me’. Rolling Eyes
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Weebs really shouldn't throw stones. It's really a non-issue. Like most things that get overly dramatized.
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Gemnist



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:36 pm Reply with quote
OtakunX wrote:
Amiantos wrote:
Literally the only thing he should be apologizing about is the fact he was an editor at the time and they weren't supposed to be publishing comics when working as an editor.


Agreed but now under Shonen Jump Weekly Marvel everything is offensive and worth losing your job over unless you're a woman or trans.


You people bitching about Shonen Jump Weekly issues is why Cebulski’s predecessor got fired, for the record. Also, Marvel’s probably been aware of the pen name for years; there may be conflicts, but clearly Marvel gave him the benefit of the doubt if they were willing to hire him less than two weeks ago.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:19 pm Reply with quote
Gemnist wrote:
OtakunX wrote:
Amiantos wrote:
Literally the only thing he should be apologizing about is the fact he was an editor at the time and they weren't supposed to be publishing comics when working as an editor.


Agreed but now under Shonen Jump Weekly Marvel everything is offensive and worth losing your job over unless you're a woman or trans.


You people bitching about Shonen Jump Weekly issues is why Cebulski’s predecessor got fired, for the record. Also, Marvel’s probably been aware of the pen name for years; there may be conflicts, but clearly Marvel gave him the benefit of the doubt if they were willing to hire him less than two weeks ago.


Alonso was replaced because he was driving the company into the ground and bleeding sales and money with his politics. Quesada wasn't perfect, but man, I remember when One More Day was the most controversal thing Marvel had ever done and people wanted him Quesada for that. A lot changes in 10 years.

Ironically enough, the people upset at this probably never heard of the infamous Marvel Mangaverse. Probably for the better.
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This reminds me of this song after hearing that he used a Japanese pseudonym.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TBfWKmRFTjM
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Amiantos



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Alan45 wrote:
C.B. Cebulski is a name I associate with failure. It will be interesting to see if he can bring that reverse Midas touch to Marvel.

Marvel comics have been bad for a number of years now. Their sales are low on a huge number of their comics and tend to get cancelled after like 6-8 issues. Comic book stores have been canceling orders from marvel on certain series, and the ones they don't cancel have been sitting on shelves for a long time. Bound to happen when you make crap like Captain America a nazi and shit.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:53 pm Reply with quote
"Japanese comics are "in", so I should publish under a Japanese name!" Ugh.
Lord Oink wrote:

Ironically enough, the people upset at this probably never heard of the infamous Marvel Mangaverse. Probably for the better.

Considering the mint Reina Telgemeier and Dave Roman are making for Scholastic these days,
maybe they should have stayed the course with some of their mangaverse titles (namely, the married authors' [url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men:_Misfits
]X-Men: Misfits[/url]) for a while longer.
The comics market is changing. Readers want variety, and they want titles kids can read. The short lived New York Times Graphic Books Bestsellers list showed that much. Marvel is very smart in diversifying their audience beyond comic book store regulars with librarian friendly teen attracting titles like Ms. Marvel. And that's besides the point that their publishing arm is not nearly as important to the business as a whole as their movie and TV show deals (as a part of Disney, no less), so it's not like Marvel is relying on Diamond distribution to comic book stores like they did in the '90s, when they literally went bankrupt.
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Lord Oink



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:28 pm Reply with quote
Their comic branch doesn't get any revenue from the movies or shows. They can't justify abysmal sales by saying the movies do good. If people are only reading these diverse books at libraries and not buying them, then that would explain the low sales.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:43 pm Reply with quote
Fallenmessiahx wrote:
Weebs really shouldn't throw stones. It's really a non-issue. Like most things that get overly dramatized.
He was a white person pretending to be Japanese to break company rules. I don't know what weebs have to do with this.
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Gemnist



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:18 pm Reply with quote
Lord Oink wrote:
Alonso was replaced because he was driving the company into the ground and bleeding sales and money with his politics. Quesada wasn't perfect, but man, I remember when One More Day was the most controversal thing Marvel had ever done and people wanted him Quesada for that. A lot changes in 10 years.


I... literally just said that. But regardless, here's the thing. People who claim Marvel is bound to collapse because of dismal sales clearly are focusing on their enjoyment of the books rather than actual sales figures. While the margin has decreased, in part due to Rebirth, Marvel still has a definitively larger market share than DC (and any other comic company), and that has been the case for YEARS (see comichron.com). It's true that Marvel Comics doesn't make any money from the films (though they might from television, as Marvel Television and Comics are still under the Marvel Entertainment name while Marvel Studios got moved under Disney's film division in 2015), but saying that Marvel is doomed to collapse is just hyperbole.

Also, people are blowing up this political thing way too much. The only one that is really as character-ruining as they make it out to be is Iceman being gay. Everything else is just mantle swaps, but of course THOSE fly well over purists' heads. Rolling Eyes And besides, especially now it's not like you can't read stories on those older characters. Not to mention, their arguments quickly are shown to be biased against Marvel when you see that these same people criticized them for making Captain America a Hydra agent just because Jack Kirby was Jewish (even though Hydra has far less to do with Nazism as the films will have you believe), criticize Marvel for hiring a WHITE actress to play a WHITE character (Squirrel Girl).... and then praise DC for making a superhero movie this year just because it featured a woman in the lead role, even though they actually did that 24 years earlier (it sucked, especially compared to Wonder Woman, but I digress). And what makes it even worse? These stories originate on BREITBART.

Keep in mind, I'm not defending Cebulski's actions; posing as a Japanese person to write Japanese-esque stories is just plain wrong (and honestly, if Avatar: The Last Airbender proved anything, it's that Americans can create anime-like stories just fine, and should never even need to release stories under such an alias). But a lot of the people arguing against him may want to consider the fact that they are being hypocritical.
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