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INTEREST: Cleveland Browns' Tight Ends Bring DBZ Fusion Dance to the End Zone




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TokyoSplash



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:31 pm Reply with quote
SO DOPE!!!!!!
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jlaking



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:36 pm Reply with quote
If only the Browns players preformed synchronized it perfectly.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:03 pm Reply with quote
So awesome!
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Kokuryu Daimao



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:13 pm Reply with quote
jlaking wrote:
If only the Browns players preformed synchronized it perfectly.


I think they deserve a pass on "synchronized it perfectly" part.

...you know, considering they just ran 40 yards, wearing Full pads, in the middle of an active game with only a 5-second window to pull it off.

Anime fans should just be glad that they did it and move on. These are Pro athletes who are showing their fandom by doing a homage to a medium they enjoy that is not directly related to the sport they are playing on a stage that is being watched by thousand if not millions of others. It didn't insult, demean or hurt anyone. This is a positive thing.

It helps to reduce the stigmatization often associated with anime and adds to the growing realization that people who enjoy anime can also be successful and accomplish other things like be professional athletes, musicians or whatever else one chooses.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:43 am Reply with quote
jlaking wrote:
If only the Browns players preformed synchronized it perfectly.


I'm curious which comedic misfire version it would be.
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I_Drive_DSM



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:41 pm Reply with quote
Kokuryu Daimao wrote:
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Anime fans should just be glad that they did it and move on. These are Pro athletes who are showing their fandom by doing a homage to a medium they enjoy that is not directly related to the sport they are playing on a stage that is being watched by thousand if not millions of others. It didn't insult, demean or hurt anyone. This is a positive thing.

It helps to reduce the stigmatization often associated with anime and adds to the growing realization that people who enjoy anime can also be successful and accomplish other things like be professional athletes, musicians or whatever else one chooses.


Thank you!

This is why I feel I have have such a difficult time being friends with anime fans IRL; there's so much cringe over the most inconsequential things. So what if they didn't perform the fusion motions picture frame perfect? They at least acknowledged their fandom on a profession stage in front of a crazy amount of live viewers. Many probably got what they were doing and many that didn't probably now know. It was 100% positive all the way around. And ultimately it's pretty awesome to see that DBZ penetrates even something as far removed from anime as American football (sans Eyeshield 21).

I remember one of the first posts I made on this site in the introduction sections a decade ago and remember posting one of the series I enjoyed was Negima and got a response of something along the line of "What Negima?" Uh what? What does it matter? Don't introduce cringe. I don't need to type out the entire romanized version of the title. People know what I'm talking about. Jesus.
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Chester McCool



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:29 pm Reply with quote
Kokuryu Daimao wrote:
Anime fans should just be glad that they did it and move on. These are Pro athletes who are showing their fandom by doing a homage to a medium they enjoy that is not directly related to the sport they are playing on a stage that is being watched by thousand if not millions of others. It didn't insult, demean or hurt anyone. This is a positive thing.

It helps to reduce the stigmatization often associated with anime and adds to the growing realization that people who enjoy anime can also be successful and accomplish other things like be professional athletes, musicians or whatever else one chooses.


Liking Dragon Ball Z is already normalized. It's one of the 'few good anime' to non-anime liking Americans. It's not a real impressive feat, to be honest.
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Kokuryu Daimao



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:00 pm Reply with quote
Chester McCool wrote:
Kokuryu Daimao wrote:
Anime fans should just be glad that they did it and move on. These are Pro athletes who are showing their fandom by doing a homage to a medium they enjoy that is not directly related to the sport they are playing on a stage that is being watched by thousand if not millions of others. It didn't insult, demean or hurt anyone. This is a positive thing.

It helps to reduce the stigmatization often associated with anime and adds to the growing realization that people who enjoy anime can also be successful and accomplish other things like be professional athletes, musicians or whatever else one chooses.


Liking Dragon Ball Z is already normalized. It's one of the 'few good anime' to non-anime liking Americans. It's not a real impressive feat, to be honest.


Please don't be That guy.

Don't trivialize a positive thing just so you can act like Mr. "McCool"

Many Anime fans have had to endure years, if not decades, of Americans and others who viewed Anime as either "only for little kids" or literally "cartoon tentacle Porn" and that anyone who admitted to watching Anime was either viewed as an immature man-child or some perverted weirdo.
The not so surprising part, is that that mentality Still exists today.

An overheard conversation at a sports bar of that football game resulted in the predictable statement from one guy who said "Oh, I don't watch any of that kids stuff" when he didn't get why several of the people around him were laughing and cheering when those Browns players did their DBZ-fusion-end-zone celebration.

So the 'normalization' of DBZ into modern culture is a positive thing that encourages inclusiveness which reflects the continuous efforts of those who strive to make anime fandoms just as normal as any other fandoms like Star Wars, Star Trek, Marvel/DC etc.

You don't have to praise them for what they did, but belittling the effort is just being petty.
As I said, just be glad they did it and move on

Edit: Side note. The guy at the sports bar who didn't get the DBZ reference, was wearing a superman T-shirt
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:04 am Reply with quote
I saw this on the Sunday highlights. Too bad the Browns couldn’t get the win, but if they could actually fuse players together, 2018 could finally be their year! (To not have a losing record at least...)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:19 pm Reply with quote
I_Drive_DSM wrote:

I remember one of the first posts I made on this site in the introduction sections a decade ago and remember posting one of the series I enjoyed was Negima and got a response of something along the line of "What Negima?" Uh what? What does it matter? Don't introduce cringe. I don't need to type out the entire romanized version of the title. People know what I'm talking about. Jesus.


No.... we actually don't know what you're talking about. There's two releases of Negima that go off in completely different directions. Not a "this is closer to manga" sort of nitpicking but a flat out spinoff series with a completely different story and direction. (Similar concept of execution would be Mai-hime vs Mai-Otome)

As banal as it sounds, a single character of punctuation makes the differentiation between Negima! and its spinoff series Negima!? that Western publishers confused and often mislabeled. Hell, even a writer on this site kept inconsistently flipping the two during a Negima article that made reading parts of it very confusing as they were detailing the history of Negima as a whole. I'm sorry your experience felt like someone was gatekeeping but it was a legitimate question and your indignance seems unwarranted.


On topic:
It's cool to see stuff like this happen. I wonder what other iconic touchdown dances would be possible in that limited time frame. I almost wanna say I remember seeing an article of the sailor moon pose being done during a touchdown dance but I could be misremembering horribly.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:20 pm Reply with quote
Of course they messed it up. They should have turned into fat/old men as a punishment. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:15 pm Reply with quote
If I remember correctly, I first found out about this from Monica Rial's Twitters (@rialisms). The amount of people in that sports arena that already knew about the Fusion Dance is a story by itself.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:45 am Reply with quote
I believe we've also seen some Kamehamehas and Spirit Bombs, ever since the NFL relaxed its celebration rules last season. For awhile, we wouldn't have even been able to get Fusion Dances, since the rules didn't allow "group demonstrations."

May also be relevant: black men's love of DBZ has been well-documented in the past. The phenomenon is visible in the NBA as well.
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