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unready
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15 mg of etorphine is enough to immobilize an elephant. It's what Dexter Morgan in Dexter used on his victims. It's like 10x more potent than fentanyl, a frequent bogeyman in the current opioid crisis. It's also been around as long as ketamine, although ketamine can supposedly leave people (or horses or cows, but not so much elephants) semi-conscious. Etorphine would knock them out. There are gelatin dart needles that dissolve/melt after use. I don't know how reliable they are, but if you're willing to accept that some experimental poison can reverse the aging process, I think any engineering problems with gelatin needles are trivial by comparison. In any of these cases, I would like to know how Kogoro passes his drug screenings. Was he already using synthetic urine even before Conan darted him the first time? If so, why? |
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Wyvern
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So Conan was the real murderer all along!
Jokes aside, this is really fascinating stuff to learn. That said, I always felt like the series gets a pass on this sort of thing because it has a science fiction premise (our hero was dosed with a drug which reverses human aging) and both the evil Black Organization and Conan's friend Dr. Agasa have been shown inventing things that are probably impossible in real life. So Conan is, in a subtle way, a sci-fi story, (though the author makes sure to never use sci-fi elements in the solutions to the mysteries since that would be "cheating.") So just like we can accept Conan being a 19 year old in the body of an 8 year old, we can accept that Dr. Agasa invented a way to knock a man out instantly with no danger to his health. |
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mrsatan
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This fallacy of "harmlessly knocking people out" has been a crutch in fiction for at least a century, maybe even longer.
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sinnamonroll
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Funny that the next topic they will come up should be about "the pharmacist confirm that there's no such a drug of transforming an adult into a kid's body" lmao.
Joke asides, it just way too obvious that so many thing don't make sense when it comes for Conan using Agasa's device, so this doesn't came as a shock. Nevertheless the explanation from the physician can give us food of thought, at least. |
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TarsTarkas
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Yeah, movies and TV shows make it seem so easy to knock people unconscious. Like the rag with chloroform. I didn't know stun needles stayed in the body. One would think after you woke up, you would know something is in you.
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chronos02
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Leaving the harmless part aside, it's possible to knock someone out by blocking their carotide for several seconds on both sides, like with a V hold, among other types of choking techniques. It's also not THAT harmful if done correctly, and will simply knock you out from lack of oxygen in the brain, though letting go inmediately will cause that person to stay unconscious for a few seconds only, keeping it up for slight longuer can cause them to remain unconscious for a couple of minutes, however, that's entering a very dangerous territory... it is less harmful than using chemichals though. And if you're wondering, repeatedly doing this 50 times in a year might leave some lasting effects, so it's still not possible to have Conan choke Mouri around the year, sadly, ahaha. |
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Serinox
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Conan's needles don't stay; they knock someone out from skin contact and then vanish naturally. Aoyama explained that in a Q&A book.
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Banjo
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did Aoyama ever explain why no body noticed Mori's mouth not mouth not moving while he is in sleeping Kogoro mode. ( except for Sato Keiji that one time )
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Wyvern
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He's always slouched over in a sitting position while everyone else is always standing. I think the implication is that they can't see his face clearly because his head is down? |
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gridsleep
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The premise of the entire series is that an adult man is trapped in his childhood body. Questioning the factual accuracy of anything after that is an exercise in futility.
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Kruszer
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No worries the stun gun will be replaced with a walkie talkie in the special edition.
Anyway, LOL at people questioning the science of a show about a man turned back into a child that's been on the air long enough for him to have grown naturally back up into an adult again, but nope still a kid. 
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