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NEWS: Alya Sometimes Hides Her Feelings in Russian Anime Delayed to July 2024


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Thespacemaster



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:44 am Reply with quote
OK

Another title added to the list of being overworked animators with poor management and probable poor animation quality and probable further delays as it airs during the summer list.

Check Check Check.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:37 am Reply with quote
I'm not surprised, there's not even a trailer out yet.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:52 am Reply with quote
Thespacemaster wrote:
OK

Another title added to the list of being overworked animators with poor management and probable poor animation quality and probable further delays as it airs during the summer list.

Check Check Check.
Nah, this time it seems to be the other way around and Aniplex doesn't want to shoot themselves in the foot with a potentially big hit on their deck like what they had with NieR Automata anime in the already friggin busy Spring season - while Doga Kobo is already busy with Jellyfish Can't Swim, which is also produced by Aniplex, and the second season for Oshi no Ko - which have the same producer as Roshidere.
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Production problems again. I am not surprised.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:17 am Reply with quote
WANNFH wrote:
Nah, this time it seems to be the other way around and Aniplex doesn't want to shoot themselves in the foot with a potentially big hit on their deck like what they had with NieR Automata anime in the already friggin busy Spring season - while Doga Kobo is already busy with Jellyfish Can't Swim, which is also produced by Aniplex, and the second season for Oshi no Ko - which have the same producer as Roshidere.

Huh, I thought Alya is primarily Kadokawa's and Jellyfish is King Records'. You don't see the usual Aniplex' vanity links (yeah, that's how I call those Twisted Evil ) at the bottom of both websites. And I found neither shows on their site (they're usually quick to add those they produce).
Maybe they are indeed part of the production committee, but not at the top of the list. Probably as BD/DVD distributor.
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L'Imperatore wrote:
WANNFH wrote:
Nah, this time it seems to be the other way around and Aniplex doesn't want to shoot themselves in the foot with a potentially big hit on their deck like what they had with NieR Automata anime in the already friggin busy Spring season - while Doga Kobo is already busy with Jellyfish Can't Swim, which is also produced by Aniplex, and the second season for Oshi no Ko - which have the same producer as Roshidere.

Huh, I thought Alya is primarily Kadokawa's and Jellyfish is King Records'. You don't see the usual Aniplex' vanity links (yeah, that's how I call those Twisted Evil ) at the bottom of both websites. And I found neither shows on their site (they're usually quick to add those they produce).
Maybe they are indeed part of the production committee, but not at the top of the list. Probably as BD/DVD distributor.


I am speaking under correction but, I think KADOKAWA does their own distribution. I can't find any information linking the series to Aniplex though they could just be involved in the streaming via Crunchyroll.

The delays are probably due to Oshi no Ko and Jellyfish taking up a majority of their already small workforce.
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Hope things are okay at Doga Kobo but I'm happier they not rush it out before it's ready.
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-Matthew- wrote:
Production problems again. I am not surprised.

The issue is more likely the spring slate. There are too many sequels of major franchises, it will galvanize any attention away from new shows. Demon Slayer, MHA, Tensura, DAL, Konosuba, Mushoku, Yuru Camp

We never had this many big franchises all collected in one season. Piling a bunch of franchises into one season generally doesn't impact them too much because they have dedicated fanbases that will watch the show and buy any related goods. But it significantly hurts newer shows due to sheer competition.

Spring 2024 should be considered a war zone for anime. Kaiju No.8, Yozakura, other new shows need to pull out of Spring asap because they are swimming in a tank of sharks.
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GunplaAddict



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:29 pm Reply with quote
Glordit wrote:
L'Imperatore wrote:
WANNFH wrote:
Nah, this time it seems to be the other way around and Aniplex doesn't want to shoot themselves in the foot with a potentially big hit on their deck like what they had with NieR Automata anime in the already friggin busy Spring season - while Doga Kobo is already busy with Jellyfish Can't Swim, which is also produced by Aniplex, and the second season for Oshi no Ko - which have the same producer as Roshidere.

Huh, I thought Alya is primarily Kadokawa's and Jellyfish is King Records'. You don't see the usual Aniplex' vanity links (yeah, that's how I call those Twisted Evil ) at the bottom of both websites. And I found neither shows on their site (they're usually quick to add those they produce).
Maybe they are indeed part of the production committee, but not at the top of the list. Probably as BD/DVD distributor.


I am speaking under correction but, I think KADOKAWA does their own distribution. I can't find any information linking the series to Aniplex though they could just be involved in the streaming via Crunchyroll.

The delays are probably due to Oshi no Ko and Jellyfish taking up a majority of their already small workforce.

Roshidere and Oshi No Ko have different production teams. The real reason they are delaying it is they know Roshidere cannot compete against all those franchise sequels concentrated into one season.
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Glordit



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:35 pm Reply with quote
GunplaAddict wrote:
Glordit wrote:
L'Imperatore wrote:
WANNFH wrote:
Nah, this time it seems to be the other way around and Aniplex doesn't want to shoot themselves in the foot with a potentially big hit on their deck like what they had with NieR Automata anime in the already friggin busy Spring season - while Doga Kobo is already busy with Jellyfish Can't Swim, which is also produced by Aniplex, and the second season for Oshi no Ko - which have the same producer as Roshidere.

Huh, I thought Alya is primarily Kadokawa's and Jellyfish is King Records'. You don't see the usual Aniplex' vanity links (yeah, that's how I call those Twisted Evil ) at the bottom of both websites. And I found neither shows on their site (they're usually quick to add those they produce).
Maybe they are indeed part of the production committee, but not at the top of the list. Probably as BD/DVD distributor.


I am speaking under correction but, I think KADOKAWA does their own distribution. I can't find any information linking the series to Aniplex though they could just be involved in the streaming via Crunchyroll.

The delays are probably due to Oshi no Ko and Jellyfish taking up a majority of their already small workforce.

Roshidere and Oshi No Ko have different production teams. The real reason they are delaying it is they know Roshidere cannot compete against all those franchise sequels concentrated into one season.


It's all just speculation until sufficient evidence is provided.

Doga Kobo is a tiny studio, they don't have multiple teams.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:38 pm Reply with quote
At least it's not air three episodes, delay 4th episode by 1 week, and then 5th episode by two weeks and then eventually the last episode will be aired in September......

Not saying this won't happen anyway......
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:56 pm Reply with quote
GunplaAddict wrote:
-Matthew- wrote:
Production problems again. I am not surprised.

The issue is more likely the spring slate. There are too many sequels of major franchises, it will galvanize any attention away from new shows. Demon Slayer, MHA, Tensura, DAL, Konosuba, Mushoku, Yuru Camp

We never had this many big franchises all collected in one season. Piling a bunch of franchises into one season generally doesn't impact them too much because they have dedicated fanbases that will watch the show and buy any related goods. But it significantly hurts newer shows due to sheer competition.

Spring 2024 should be considered a war zone for anime. Kaiju No.8, Yozakura, other new shows need to pull out of Spring asap because they are swimming in a tank of sharks.


Summer isn't any better thanks to an already glutted slate of first-time romcom adaptations, though. (This may be the first domino to fall in pushing several of those into fall, though.)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:01 pm Reply with quote
I find the "the delay is done to avoid competion" reasoning to be pretty BS and without any actual solid evidence to back it up. Delaying a series is usually something producers would want to avoid, not only because it will take away more money from them to buy new TV slots, but because it will affect schedules of other upcoming series.

And no, OnK and Roshidere don't have "different teams" - core staff members like director and character designers are different, but they're both productions that will be managed by Ryo Kobayashi, meaning there'll likely still be a very similar pool of animation staff shared between the two. And considering how the first season of OnK was already struggling with a constant increase of animation directors per episode, I wouldn't be surprised if that's what caused Roshidere's production to have problems.
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GunplaAddict



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:56 pm Reply with quote
ItsThatBriGuy wrote:
GunplaAddict wrote:
-Matthew- wrote:
Production problems again. I am not surprised.

The issue is more likely the spring slate. There are too many sequels of major franchises, it will galvanize any attention away from new shows. Demon Slayer, MHA, Tensura, DAL, Konosuba, Mushoku, Yuru Camp

We never had this many big franchises all collected in one season. Piling a bunch of franchises into one season generally doesn't impact them too much because they have dedicated fanbases that will watch the show and buy any related goods. But it significantly hurts newer shows due to sheer competition.

Spring 2024 should be considered a war zone for anime. Kaiju No.8, Yozakura, other new shows need to pull out of Spring asap because they are swimming in a tank of sharks.


Summer isn't any better thanks to an already glutted slate of first-time romcom adaptations, though. (This may be the first domino to fall in pushing several of those into fall, though.)


Majority of anime productions want a premiere in the spring or fall. Pretty much every yugioh, cardfight vanguard anime has a spring premiere date. Pokemon fall date. Summer people are usually outside having fun, and less likely to stay indoors.

Spy X Family for example had a spring premiere date and it caused a lot of other hype animes like Shikimori to suffer. Similiar story with Oshi no Ko. If lycoris recoil premiered in spring, it wouldn't have done nearly well because all the attention would be on spy x family. If your an established franchise like a MHA, it generally doesn't matter when you premiere since you will have a fanbase who will watch it regardless when. But they will usually prefer a spring or fall date and avoid summer.

Roshidere pretty much realized airing in Spring 2024 is airing in a war zone, and it will severely impact their viewership and sales.

We can compare spring 2024 with summer 2024 and you can just feel the difference.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:58 pm Reply with quote
Glordit wrote:
GunplaAddict wrote:
Glordit wrote:
L'Imperatore wrote:
WANNFH wrote:
Nah, this time it seems to be the other way around and Aniplex doesn't want to shoot themselves in the foot with a potentially big hit on their deck like what they had with NieR Automata anime in the already friggin busy Spring season - while Doga Kobo is already busy with Jellyfish Can't Swim, which is also produced by Aniplex, and the second season for Oshi no Ko - which have the same producer as Roshidere.

Huh, I thought Alya is primarily Kadokawa's and Jellyfish is King Records'. You don't see the usual Aniplex' vanity links (yeah, that's how I call those Twisted Evil ) at the bottom of both websites. And I found neither shows on their site (they're usually quick to add those they produce).
Maybe they are indeed part of the production committee, but not at the top of the list. Probably as BD/DVD distributor.


I am speaking under correction but, I think KADOKAWA does their own distribution. I can't find any information linking the series to Aniplex though they could just be involved in the streaming via Crunchyroll.

The delays are probably due to Oshi no Ko and Jellyfish taking up a majority of their already small workforce.

Roshidere and Oshi No Ko have different production teams. The real reason they are delaying it is they know Roshidere cannot compete against all those franchise sequels concentrated into one season.


It's all just speculation until sufficient evidence is provided.

Doga Kobo is a tiny studio, they don't have multiple teams.


Roshidere is a rom com so I highly doubt they will have trouble animating something that requires next to no action. I rarely hear of rom coms needing delays due to production issues. I am pretty sure they are able to increase their staff after Oshi No Ko's success.
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