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joystick1101
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Hmm... whats stands out here... mmm... O The Dark Knight? Awesome movie but huh? its the only non-japanese product in the bunch. Nowhere else will you see Macross Frontier, Code Geass and The Dark Knight in the same nomination.
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Big Hed
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So far as television is concerned; Real Drive, no question. Everything else on that list is either sci-fantasy (Geass R2, Macross Frontier, Kamen Rider, Fireball), or neither (Library War and Dark Knight are both technologically and conceptually contemporary).
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walw6pK4Alo
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The Library Wars barely counts as science-fiction. It's barely not too distant future and they use completely modern and mundane tech. If anything else, it's just speculative fiction. Real Drive on the other hand is also not too distant future, but gives us an entirely different world.
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Labbes
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I think that the term "sci-fantasy" is nitpicking. After all, Star Trek has fantasy elements as well, but I would still consider it sci-fi. |
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Big Hed
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Yeah, should've explained myself better. I was implying that those series were less deserving of the award because of their predominantly -- in my opinion -- fantastic elements (though I love both Frontier and R2), rather than attempting to debase their qualifications for being nominated. Though yeah, that's not to say "true" sci-fi can't possess elements of fantasy, either. It might even be necessary. Real Drive certainly has a big fat one in its ending. |
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Petrea Mitchell
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The Seiuns appear to have taken the same approach to defining the genre as the Hugos do: leave it up to the voters to decide what's sufficiently genre and what isn't. And the Seiun voters, like the Hugo voters, appear to be going with the bookstore definition of sf, which includes fantasy.
Also like the Hugos, enforcing some kind of standard definition of the genre would probably be impossible since the conventions, and thus the awards, are being run by a different set of people every year. |
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Megiddo
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I'm seriously at a loss here.
How can Library War (which I enjoyed) make the science fiction nominations when Kaiba and Eve no Jikan do not? I mean, seriously... sheesh. |
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Splitter
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Where the f*ck is Kaiba?
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wandering-dreamer
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Wow, Library War is a bit of an oddball in there. It's certainly good but more like alternate history than full out sci-fi.
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Proman
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I'm fine with calling most of these "sci-fi" but hardly anything here is what I would call 'sf' or 'science fiction'.
Not that 'Saturn Awards' are any better. |
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vincent iii
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Kinda confused on why Den-O is on the list. It only aired for I think 3 episodes in 2008, movies and OVA. Kiva was the most recent completed Kamen Rider series with it's movies being released in 2008 as well.
Even though I loved Dark Knight, I have a real difficult time seeing it as a Sci-Fi series. Gundam 00 S1 should of been somewhere on there :/ |
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ninjaclown
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Yeah, I've been wondering why Gundam 00 isn't on here either, it would certainly be deemed closer to sci-fi. |
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Kit-Tsukasa
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Because Gundam 00 = Gundam Wing ripoff.... |
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