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NEWS: Manga Award Revoked Due to Mardock Scramble Plagiarism




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ljaesch



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:55 pm Reply with quote
*smh*

I think it's safe to say that this guy's career is dead before it even got started.
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Psycho_Despair



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:25 pm Reply with quote
*big sigh* The guy could have waited for next year or entered in another contest Confused
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mangamuscle



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:40 pm Reply with quote
"in a hurry to make [his] debut as a manga creator."

Talk about a lame excuse for plagiarism, that should have been translated as "mhh, I have no interesting ideas so I am going to rip-off a well known author".
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JDuks



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:52 pm Reply with quote
mangamuscle wrote:
"mhh, I have no interesting ideas so I am going to rip-off a well known author".


This is 95% of manga.
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yamiangie



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:58 pm Reply with quote
so he got caught pulling a Swipe or i guess tracing.
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Teriyaki Terrier



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:11 pm Reply with quote
I'll fully agree that writing manga is very challenging and is not easy in the least, but plagiarism is probably the worst action you can do with all forms of entertainment, especially all forms of writing.

As such, this won't look good in the very least in his career and in fact, will look quite bad especially in the manga field. These days, it's not uncommon for a manga artist to actually face legal charges if plagiarism occurs (even accidentally in some cases)

In general, plagiarism is bad no matter what form it in is. I've heard that some colleges these days may actually expel you after the first offense if found guilty. In addition, I also heard you could face some legal charges if the author of the original work is so inclined to approve of said action.

As a person who has written several papers in the past and who witnessed a event similar to this in the past, I can only say, it takes time to write something "good" but at least that way, you can truly say it's your work and your work alone.
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Kougeru



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:35 pm Reply with quote
Hey guess I'm writing a novel series about a young boy who finds out he's a wizard whose parents were killed by an evil wizard. When he's 11 he starts his wizard training at a wizard school in england called "Pigsbump"


Good idea? lol..... I don't get how people can even consider INTENTIONAL plagiarism. I know it's possible to have similar ideas though and that's just unfortunate sometimes
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luisedgarf



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:04 pm Reply with quote
ljaesch wrote:
*smh*

I think it's safe to say that this guy's career is dead before it even got started.


Maybe the author will back to flip burgers in McDonalds, become a Yakuza or moving to another country to find a job...

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As a person who has written several papers in the past and who witnessed a event similar to this in the past, I can only say, it takes time to write something "good" but at least that way, you can truly say it's your work and your work alone.


Thanks for the lecturing...
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cleverasinine



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:12 pm Reply with quote
"in a hurry to make [his] debut as a manga creator."

I think that's a perfectly legitimate reason to plagiarize someone else's work. Similarly, I was in a hurry to start driving the car of my dreams.....so I just carjacked someone else who was already driving it.

See? Problem solved Wink
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mangamuscle



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:03 am Reply with quote
JDuks wrote:
mangamuscle wrote:
"mhh, I have no interesting ideas so I am going to rip-off a well known author".


This is 95% of manga.


I would have to disagree. It is no secret that in manga, anime, book & live-action you often see the same ideas repeated over and over and over. But ideas cannot be copyrighted (if so White Wolf would have successfully sued the movie studio behind the "Underworld" flicks) and therefore that is not plagiarism.
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NonoAsumy



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:53 am Reply with quote
Is it so hard to write inspired by "..." under your work?

Poor guy. He could´ve at least used a better excuse than that.
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TarsTarkas



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:11 am Reply with quote
Had nothing to do about making his debut as a manga creator, and more with winning the award. He knew he couldn't win on his own work.
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silentjay



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:37 pm Reply with quote
mangamuscle wrote:
But ideas cannot be copyrighted (if so White Wolf would have successfully sued the movie studio behind the "Underworld" flicks) and therefore that is not plagiarism.


Sony settled out of court, and White Wolf got an undisclosed sum out of the settlement.
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Running Wild





PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:17 pm Reply with quote
When it comes to plagiarism, look no further than Ikkitousen.

I ask you, HOW, did this series run for so long with so many anime sequels and shit, when the original manga was notorious for ripping off OhGreat's Tenjou Tenge?

Entire panels were traced! And yet I never saw the creator of Ikkitousen apologize or get put on blast in the news ever for it. How do you plagiarize such a popular work from a famous artist like OhGreat, and make an even more popular series out of it? It makes no sense.
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MaxSouth



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:19 pm Reply with quote
JDuks wrote:
mangamuscle wrote:
"mhh, I have no interesting ideas so I am going to rip-off a well known author".


This is 95% of manga.


this time is different, since author took not only idea, but some of it's implementation characteristics, and obviously made it too blatantly...
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