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Greed1914
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Well, it sounds like it was good that I picked up my copy of the R.O.D blu-ray, even if I waited almost a full year for the price to get somewhere that even seemed acceptable.
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EighteenSky
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Good and interesting interview that. Some of the points about the pricing I expected (like targeting the collectors market) and others I did not but thinking about it seems kinda obvious (Aniplex having a big say in their release strategy). The bit about Aniplex possibly closing down AoA if reverse importing situation got really bad was a bit of a shock.
I'm still happy about the prices, cheaper than importing and have English subs. Good enough for me. Also glad that Mahouka had good streaming figures, I adored it but wasn't sure how it was received in the west other than that vocal minority slamming it. Getting it on Blu Ray to look forward to so thank you people of America for making the streaming figures good enough for that. Last edited by EighteenSky on Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:34 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Charred Knight
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When I was collecting Galaxy Angels I noticed that I could buy the Starter box set new for 15 bucks, and then buy used copies to fill up the box set. The fact that I owned a collector's box set that came with some nice figures of the Galaxy Angel didn't improve the "experience" of watching season 1 over the other seasons were I jjust owned normal dvd releases of. The quality of my experience watching anime is entirely on the staff of the anime itself.
Here's a comparison between them and Funimation, the experience of watching Space Dandy is better than the experience of watching Kill la Kill because not only is the show slightly better but the dub is significantly better. Yet despite Funimation offering the superior experience I would have to pay at least twice what I paid for Space Dandy if I wanted Kill la Kill. Looking at Rightstuf right now, and the only worthwhile addition the limited edition Kill la Kill offers is the soundtrack, and there maybe about 5 songs I would actually want off that soundtrack and there's a good chance that I would have to buy several boxsets just to get the songs I actually want. Meanwhile the regular edition gives me no reason for why I would want to pay 40 dollars for 4 episodes. You know what would be a great experience if I could own Kill la Kill for less than 200 dollars. This is honestly one of the few anncast where I got pissed at the guest. |
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Chiyosuke
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Minor nitpick. AoA was established by Aniplex Inc. (Sony Music Entertainment Japan) in March 05. They just didn't start actually releasing titles themselves until about 5 years later. It's main staff consists of Geneon USA alumni Hideki "Henry" Goto and, to the best of my memory, producer Jerry Chu. Both of whom I believe joined after GUSA was shuttered.
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SpacemanHardy
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I'd really like some cheese to go with that BALONEY. 
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Charred Knight
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and its that kind of statements that made me hate the guy. Considering that I have about a thousand dollars to spare on stuff like anime and video games. Then yeah they are trying to exclude me. |
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Fronzel
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No, you don't get it; they're not trying to exclude anyone...I mean, they do exclude people, but they're not doing it on purpose. Totally different. |
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penguintruth
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Aniplex is fine. So they're greedy, what corporation isn't? Though they're certainly not shy about it. At least Funimation hides behind their billion DBZ releases and leaves most of the rest of their licenses alone. But I guess Aniplex doesn't have a DBZ to fall back on, so they have to price gouge.
The real problem is the people who buy their products, patronize their greed by supporting them financially. The people who try to justify the prices as being "the collector's market". As if spending obscene amounts of money for less content makes you a collector. No, that makes you a sucker. It's the sucker's market that Aniplex caters to. And it's a shame, because there are titles they license that I'd love to own, but I will not negotiate with sucker-baiters and I will not associate with Aniplex customers. |
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mgosdin
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There is a happy medium between the $10 per Ep AoA is charging and the "Buck an Ep" bargain bin. I tried putting a number to it back when Madoka Magica first came out, for me it was about $4.00 an episode at that time for a dubbed basic release. It is still holding pretty close to that. I emphasize that that figure is for my own wants & needs and will likely not apply for anyone else.
Sentai, Funimation, NISA, Discotek, etc all seem to be functioning reasonably well and are even offering collector's premium packages alongside their more casual consumer friendly versions. I'm not out to see Aniplex Japan or AoA hurt in any way, indeed I hope that by speaking up about their pricing model the potential problems of a too narrow fan base could be avoided. Mark Gosdin |
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mgosdin
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Their pricing model, per Mr. Rivera, is a conscious corporate decision by Aniplex Japan, it is nothing if not purposeful. Exclusion of fans with money in hand, or if you prefer leaving money on the table, is an inevitable consequence of that decision. Mark Gosdin |
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DmonHiro
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mgosdin, don't you understand that without their model they wouldn't be able to release things that quick and in that high quality? This is FACT.
My God, they are not leaving money on the table, they never wanted you money. They are going after the rich collectors. If they would offer it at a lower price, the collectors wouldn't spent so much money. Aniplex collections are a status symbol in and if themselves. They wouldn't be status symbols if any average Joe could afford it. |
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Charred Knight
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I don't really care about speed. I just picked up Trigun last year. Also quality is entirely reliant on the show itself. Why would I want to buy Durarara when the episodes I saw of it sucked? I buy DVDs/BR to make sure I will be able to watch an anime in the future. If a person brags about owning a certain DVD my thought isn't "Wow that guys rolling in dough" I think "wow this guy's an asshole" Last edited by Charred Knight on Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:25 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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DmonHiro
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That's just YOU and some others. Most want to watch things as soon as possible. People wait for better deals are not the customers Aniplex wants. Why would they cater to you if doing so cripples themselves? Reverse importation is the bane of Japanese studios. Blade the not-so-nice-people that put the same region for US and Japan. |
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yuna49
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Well, it applies to me, too, Mark. Some time ago I decided that $3-4 per episode was the price I was willing to pay. That makes a full, two-cour series retail for about $100 or less. I'm not in the Aniplex market, and I appreciate that their top series like Madoka and Kill la Kill continue to be legally available from streaming outlets like Crunchyroll and Netflix alongside the discs. |
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Charred Knight
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Then I would rather EJ Rivera just come out and say that instead of trying to say some crap about how they care about "experience". Just go up to the mic and say "We don't want people with little money to buy our products" |
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