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Nachtwandler
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I always wonder: is situation that bad in JP pop-music industry only or it is just a flaw of industry itself?
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Distant Thunder
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I suspect it's the same everywhere on the planet, and that the more your trade depends on your "connections" and "image", the more this kind of cases are prone to happen, more to women than men I'd reckon. ShowBiz seems like a the kind of scene meeting all of these (arbitrary I agree) criteria. Then, you have local culture making matters more or less worse ( the "it's a private problem, we can't intervene" / "she tempted him" crowds, beyond religions, cultures and on all continents...). I'd say people having to carefully polish their image and avoid scandals at all costs are more vulnerable, and ShowBiz where "image" is everything might be particularly ripe for this kind of unfortunate happenings. Wish all the better to her and hope her career can keep going on. |
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v1cious
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This is being treated like an isolated incident, but we all know this happens a lot more than we're being told. The Japanese entertainment industry is notorious for keeping a lid on this kind of stuff. Don't forget the whole NGT48 shitshow that happened awhile back.
Edit Wow, that was atrocious. Last edited by v1cious on Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:23 pm; edited 3 times in total |
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Nachtwandler
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The thing is no one is surprised when it happens with just another idol group members, especially if its AKB48 and related units. But it is a bit shoking then such news happen with more normal singers/composers in the industry. And its not only about harrasment but about awful contracts or general bvehavior of company higher-ups also. I still remember how Yukari Tamura left King Records after her contract ended and she had a really depressed posts a few mionths before it hinting that she got fed up of harsh contract. Or how during that recent story with Yuki Kajiura's conflict with a new managed company preferred to side with a manager despite her clearly being in wrong there. |
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chocorade
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"A lovers quarrel" really? I don't even know why I'm surprised to be honest, jeez.
I hope she can continue her career in a better environment. |
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Lactobacillus yogurti
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The predominance of male chauvinism in Japan as a whole is just horrifying. Women are always dealing with the manure-tained short end of the stick.
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Idgal
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the oversea concert has to be Kawaii Kon...
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Яeverse
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ELISA is one of my favorites, I wish she got true justice
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Errinundra
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He assaults her. She's out of a job.
Awful. |
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Somer-_-
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I hope she bounces back. and with the news public this company may actually be pressured to do something.
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Top Gun
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That company statement is vomit-worthy. Absolutely disgusting.
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Ming Yi
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I don't think it's just a Japanese thing though, especially since these problems are also prevalent in other pop music industries, including Western countries (Harvey Weinstein comes to mind). Higher-ups tend to take advantage of their subordinates and talents. The entertainment industry is exploitative in some aspects. I think we just tend to have a harsher judgment on how other countries handle things in comparison. I do notice that there's a difference between Western and Asian pop cultures in that it's way more difficult for Asian pop figures to salvage their career once they've spoken out, because if they do they are pretty much blacklisted. Like, Maho Yamaguchi spoke out after being bullied and assaulted in NGT48 and even though she signed to a major acting company afterwards, she hasn't had any large roles. |
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Kadmos1
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Like the victim being sexually assaulted wasn't bad enough! Were this to happen on American soil, there could have been a bigger backlash. |
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Chichiryuutei
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I hope that I don't get flag for my comment but why did ELISA let this go on for such a long time. She isn't at fault at all but come on if you allowed 6-12 months to pass before highlighting issues to another manager then even the company is going to have a hard time believing you.
Now, that been said, this is completely the manager's & company fault for allowing these as****es onboard. ELISA is the talent, I don't want to demean any job but in what industry/company does a Talent lose a fight to an employee. She should've never given this guy a "2nd chance" and should've given an ultimatum to her label. If they aren't willing to help (like it ended up happening) then leave. I'm sure she can find a new label or even make her own. Japan is such a perplexing country. |
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SilverTalon01
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Maybe she was afraid she would end up getting black balled for reporting it? Cases like this don't exactly offer a lot of hope that she wouldn't have. You're saying that she should have just immediately assumed the company would take her side in a "he said, she said" complaint? It may have just taken the guy escalating his actions for her to decide reporting was worth the risk. I'll also throw out that maybe she was afraid the stuff early on wasn't enough to get him fired, and she would only piss him off and end up stuck working with him anyway. Unless the guy has a history, he probably wouldn't have been fired on a single "he said, she said" allegation. Having HR or whoever come talk with the guy during investigation of the allegation may have scared the shit out of him enough to fix his behavior, but it could also have made things worse. Unfortunately, shit like this isn't ever likely to stop on its own so it was always going to come down to hoping the company is more full of decent human beings than the other way around. It is awful easy to sit back on the internet and say when she should have come forward when it isn't you that would have been taking that risk. |
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