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Tempest
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Okay, Jonathan's gotten himself into a bit of a hot seat. His failure to properly label a few songs does call into question his credentials. But I think the answers to the question aren't that bad. To his deffense, in a way that he hasn't thought to mention himself, pop-music genres change so bloody much that it isn't funny. Ten years ago what we called "Techno" and "Euro Techno" are called "Dance" today. What we called "Industrial Techno" is now called "Techno". What is now called "Industrial" wasn't its own genre, what we called electronica is now called "synth" and what is now called "electronica" was called... hmm... can't remember. But the most important point was already made by Jonathan, knowing what something is labelled is not important in being able to judge it, although it does help when you go to write about it. Last edited by Tempest on Tue Sep 16, 2003 3:26 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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jmays
ANN Associate Editor
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I missed one important point earlier. The purpose of Sound Decision is to suggest whether or not you, the reader, should buy a particular CD release. Since you're the one who's making the ultimate decision, you should have all the information you want about a release, and you should expect it all to be accurate. This isn't about whether or not I appreciate some piece of music; it's about giving you the information to make an educated decision about whether or not you'd like it. Many people use genres as part of their buying decisions. While I strongly disagree with that approach, I must accept that it's a factor for quite a few buyers and, thus, something I can't continue to ignore. As I've demonstrated, I know much less about the different "genres" of music than I should. I'm capable of enjoying music without regard for the genre, but, again, this isn't about me. Since I clearly lack the background to properly identify basic musical genres, and because my ignorance has the potential to mislead people, I think I need to reevaluate my column. |
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lianncoop
Past ANN Contributor
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I think music is probably a very hard thing to review. There is a certain finesse that has to go with constructively criticizing it. Like Jonathan said, genres are very helpful in clumping together music types to better organize them for retail or encyclopedia purposes. However, to solely base one's decision on an album because of its genre is somewhat...ignorant. It doesn't matter, really, if Jonathan knows the exact difference between JPop and Electronica. He knows the difference between what is pleasant to the ear and what isn't. He has listened to the album for your benefit and has given his opinion. If something sounds interesting in his review, go and check it out. If not, then don't. Obviously, if you're a fan of a particular genre, you're probably going to check it out despite what Jonathan writes in his column. He seems to have a pretty solid background in music, in my opinion. I mean, if you didn't, why would you even be allowed to write a column entirely on music? And if people are being mislead by, very rarely, mis-named genres, they are the ignorant ones for purchasing the album without doing some research. Sound Decision is an overview of what's out there in anime music, not something you should live or die by. I don't see anyone knockin' his "Tune-In" choices...so, he must be doing something right!
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nyana
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Well, you may not know the difference between electronic music and jpop, but your response is simply brilliant. I agree entirely with you that labels only help to deter people from enjoying all of the other wonderful music out there. Unfortunately, the majority of people are enslaved into that way of thinking, and can't break away from referring to labels and enoying music freely. I admire your response and only wish others would start looking at music the same way you do. |
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LordByronius
ANN Columnist
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I concur. Keep up the great work, Jon; your column is a pleasure to read, genre mislabeling be damned.
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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I'd like to point out that I in no way meant to undermine Jon's column. I was attempting to have a discussion with him about electronic music. When he replied back, he used examples that were not electronic music, and then admitted his mistake. I do not consider this a reflection of any sort on his column. I don't have to sit here and heap praise on Jon to make sure he knows I love his work. He already knows that. I wanted a discussion and it went to an unfortunate place.
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Iron Chef
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So here's a question for any and all:
What JPop songs would you pick to be covered as heavy metal songs? I'd have to say that the two I've found most promising are Dali's "Moonlight Densetsu" and Masami Okui's "Shu -AKA-" Any other suggestions for this burgeoning metal superstar? Much obliged. |
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