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Jarmel
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I personally don't hate Gonzo enough for wasting my time that I want to see them burn and crash(although they have wasted my time on certain shows) but if any studio at all had to go, then I'm glad it was them. I certainly like Druaga and feel that it is more the individual director that determines the quality than say the studio(although it seems that higher quality directors go to certain studios).
Also theoretically you could argue that Kyoto has never had a dud. 
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Cait
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The Nazis were only just introduced in the Hellsing manga at the time that the TV series would have gone into production in Japan. Checking the dates from ANN and Wikipedia, tankoban 4 (the South America arc) came out just before the Japanese TV air dates in 2001, meaning Gonzo would not have had access to that plot information at the time of production. Blaming them for building a story based entirely on the first three volumes (sans the Nazi elements which had only just been introduced so they had no way of knowing where they were going) is sort of unfair. They built a horror anime storyline from a relatively unknown manga series at the time. The fact that the OVAs came in much later was probably due to the TV series putting the series into the public's consciousness, even if it was just as a "hey, I heard this manga is way different than the anime version they put on TV, let's try it out."
I also think it's rather crude to compare justifications for mass rape and enslavement to the opinions about an anime series. Really poor form. But this is getting seriously off-topic, so I'm done here. If you want to continue this discussion, feel free to PM me. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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Kyoto hasn't done enough to say that, but I will say that most of their titles rely on an already well developed fanbase. FMP had the previous show, Key stuff had the games, Haruhi had the light novels, and Lucky Star had Haruhi. Munto, their only original production, doesn't seem to be getting a lot of talk, and their did the OVAs. |
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Unit 03.5-ish
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Now the horse is a level 46 zombie with 4,000 HP and Decaying Breath, Raging Run, and Darkness Stare abilities. See what you've done? |
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Jarmel
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I don't even want to bother arguing with you over Hellsing but I would like to point out that you totally misread that. I was making a general comment that people disagree over everything, which is pretty much true. @wal6pK4Alo This is why I said theoretically as you could argue by them redoing Munto, which was really only a two part OVA, and making it better would it still be a dud? As for fanbase, that really doesn't matter as much shows already have some sort of fanbase either due to manga or light novels or what have you. You could also argue what qualifies a dud,either financially or critically, and how much of a dud was it. @Unit Oh and just because you like a studio doesn't make it law or even good, it just means you like them. Gonzo is not really well liked and if you have problems with that then tough luck, I would suggest signing off the internet. If you want to say I'm beating a dead horse, rather stupidly I might add, by voicing my opinion then an internet forum is not for you. |
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krelyan
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And just because you don't like them doesn't make it "law" either. 
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Jarmel
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Did I ever say that? It would seem though that due to the fact that they are going under that people obviously didn't like them. I really don't care either way as I previously stated.
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Unit 03.5-ish
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I never said anyone HAD to like Gonzo, or HAD to consider everything they've done a masterpiece. All I'm saying is that there's no need to keep bashing them OVER and OVER and OVER. I don't like when people put words in my mouth...I was just trying to defend a studio that I like and that has hit tough times, not trying to shove them down anyone's throat. But I guess that kind of "indifference" is what you get with people who think anime is this magical free thing that the Internet supplies you with at no charge...
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Jarmel
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You are indirectly doing that though by belittling other people's opinions on the matter though. There are better ways to defend Gonzo then just saying that another person's opinion sucks. You could mention FMP and the great work they did on that or Seto no Hanayome or the great animation job they did on Afro Samurai. Mocking someone else's opinion though shows a lack of knowledge on your part. Some people don't like Gonzo's recent work even after seeing all their previous stuff and feel that Gonzo should go down in flames, which is their educated opinion and they have the right to voice that. As said earlier, I personally don't like how they handle their endings but again I have liked some of their previous works, it's just that IMO there are better studios out there and IMO if one of the worst studios goes belly up, oh well. I would have the same reaction for any company I thought was creating a shoddy product. Just so you know plenty of people did watch Druaga and Blassreiter legally. I personally have bought more than my fair share of Gonzo shows and I don't care either way(I will miss the possibility 2nd season of Seto though) . |
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fighterholic
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Reminds me of bashing DB the movie or Transformers. There are some people that are just going to be haters, because there is nothing better to do with their time. It's a tiresome thing to have to read through all of their hate, and they get fueled when you try and argue with them because it gives them more incentive to be a troll.
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Unit 03.5-ish
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Jarmel = GATSU 2.0? Either way, this is getting old, and it's like trying to break through a brick wall with a butter knife. Really, the argument just keeps going in circles, so...what the hell ever. |
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fighterholic
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That's when you start hitting the report buttons or asking mods to lock threads. But that is to their discretion. |
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Jarmel
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The fact that you have no legitimate response to that and can't articulate your defense of Gonzo in a reasonable manner shows who's the troll.
Btw anyone know how much Funimation pays for this stuff, either through a quarterly or the like? |
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Unit 03.5-ish
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No, if I'd responded, you'd just try to throw that argument in my face, too. Like I said, this is really getting pointless, I'm tired, I have classes from 9 to 5, arguing on the Internet is like winning a certain kind of Olympics, etc.
Sooooo...good night, and GONZO bless.
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enurtsol
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Yep, that's true! The last Powerpuff Girls episode explained it: AARON: It’s almost as if Tears For Fears wrote Everybody Wants to Rule the World for PPG. Who came up with this pairing concept? CRAIG: I wanted the Mojo quitting sequence to be all Wes Anderson-style - slo-mo walking with the perfect song driving the whole thing. I think I suggested it, or it could have been Lauren, or maybe Derek Bachman - I really can’t remember. I just recall that we were all laughing so hard at the idea. I do remember thinking “this is perfect, I just hope we can get the rights to use it!” Here’s an inside scoop: the reason we had Mojo sing it and not use the original recording is that it costs half as much to license the song if you have someone else perform it. It’s cheaper AND funnier!
See the early Pioneer dubs back when the songs were treated part of the anime license. Heck, Ranma 1/2 created an unofficial band DoCo USA to sing the Japanese seiyuu's DoCo songs. Then the Japanese music groups wised up. 
The same thing that ruined the Blue Dragon anime in the West, when the Japanese studio stupidly added risque otaku fodder to what's supposed to be a Microsoft-intended children's series. 
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